After my fruitless search of four sites a few days ago I was determined to find this one. Found at 8pm tonight, with a group of "players" standing very very close by.
Can't understand why we've never done this one before. It (like a lot of caches we haven't done) is sooooo close to where we live.
Found the most likely spot but didn't find it. Checked the other items similar to the one in clue and found nothing. lwb3 (Shaun) looked where I had looked and found it. All because I won't put my hand in strange holes. Do they sell geocaching gloves???